Wednesday, November 19, 2008

God's Plan?

One thing that was commented on to me several times with my last post (which yes, I deleted because I thought I was being too sissy and whiny) was the saying, "Don't worry, God has a plan." And it got me thinking...Does God really have a plan for every one specific person? I don't believe He does. I personally believe God has a will, and that will is going to get done, but the process of how that comes about, or who brings it about for him is not set in stone. Look at the examples we have in the Old Testament. God actually "regretted" making man when He decided to destroy the world with water and start over with Noah. I don't believe God had a plan back when He was doing all that creating, to just kill them all in a few thousand years. Man screwed it all up, and then God had to take action and cleanse the world.
Look at the example of Moses and the Israelites in the wilderness. God was so upset and frustrated with the Israelites, He was ready to destroy the whole nation and then start all over again with Moses. Moses is the one that talked Him out of it! I don't think that was part of a plan when He first made the promise to Abraham. Or part of a plan when He brought them out of Egypt. Imagine...I'm going to give you many decedents and then I'm going to kill them all, and then start over with one decedent again, and then go from there. Or, I'm going to get Moses to bring y'all out of Egypt, just to kill all of you, when you piss me off. No, that wasn't a plan. God's will was to fulfill the promise He made to Abraham by bringing them out of Egypt, but I believe He was kind of going with the flow of how He was going to fulfill His will. Not necessarily a specific plan for specific individuals.
Now, don't get me wrong...
Do I believe that God works in our lives? Yes, I do. But no, I don't believe that He has a specific plan for every individual person. I don't believe God made a specific "true love" for me or you. Nope, don't believe it. I believe in free will, that people find someone, fall in love and get married. But that doesn't mean that God meant you to find that person. You could of found anyone, you just happen to find that one. The only person I can think of at the top of my head in the Bible who God hooked up with a wife was Hosea. Hosea was told to go get married to a hooker named Gomer (and even then, I'm pretty sure, God just told him to find a hooker, not specifically Gomer, maybe Gomer was just the hottest one?). Anywho, this whole "plan" was for Hosea to find someone who was going to be unfaithful to him, so that God could use it as an example of how Israel was off hookin on the corner to other gods, cheating on the real God.
There might be more examples that I'm just not thinking of, and therefore, I may be totally wrong about my opinion. Maybe God does have a plan for every individual, we're just so young, dumb, and full of cum that we screw it all up, who knows. I'm sure most of the married folks would probably disagree with my opinion, and that's fine. Like I said, I'm just stating my opinion, and I'm aloud to do that, because this is my blog. Sorry if I offended anyone by my choice of words, but like I said, my blog.

7 comments:

Norman J. Cannon said...

Hey man... you don't know me... I'm Stacey's husband... I don't agree with everything you said about the plan or no plan, etc, but man that was well said... lol

Nate said...

Well, I do believe God has plans, but I think it's more on the grand scale then the individual scale...i.e. the plan of salvation...and I do admit, God did have to use individuals to bring about this plan...i.e. Abraham, Moses, Joseph and Mary, ect.ect...BUT, I still think that if those people had not CHOSEN to do what God asked them to do, He would of just found someone else to do it...
When it comes to God making one specific person for another specific person ("my true love"), I just don't believe it; otherwise which one of Solomon's 700 wives and 300 concubines was his "one true love"?
But you know, we're all entitled to our opinion, and I respect yours, so I do apologize if I said something that might have offended anyone.

clay said...

God does have plans for this world, both on an individual and much broader scale. And his plan is perfect. However, since God's perfect plan(s) must be acted out by humans who are imperfect, it never happens perfectly and it's often hard for us to realize or fulfill his plans for our lives and this world.

As far as there being only one person out there for everyone...no way. Love is not only an emotion, it's also a choice. We can find anyone who we're attracted to and desire to spend our life with and constantly make the decision to love them. No one is perfect for another person. We are all imperfect, which brings us back to us constantly screwing up God's perfect plans...

Nate said...

Amen to the preacher man...but I have to ask...do you believe He has a plan for EVERY individual? I personally don't believe so, but I can see where you are coming from if you do and admit that I could be very wrong about it...

Sometimes, I feel like John Constatine when he says, "God's a kid with an ant farm, lady. He's not planning anything." But I know that isn't true, but I do feel like that sometimes...maybe that's part of my imperfections...
Anywho, I'm glad somebody, esp. a married person, agrees with me on the true love thing though...

clay said...

Yes, I do believe he has a plan for every individual, but I don't think it's like what you're talking about. I don't think God plans out what we should do as a specific career or one specific person we should marry. God's plan for every individual is to follow him, glorify him, and live a quality life while we're on this earth. Regarding the other stuff, God has blessed each of us by making us all different. But, it's not God's plan that determines our talents, our personalities, our likes and dislikes, etc...that is all the result of our life experiences and how we're raised. And it's those things which determine the type of career we should choose, the type of person we can marry and live with, etc.

Nate said...

Gotcha...i agree...basically what you just said is what i was trying to get at...leave it to the guy who speaks for a living on God, to say what i'm trying to say the right way....

Anonymous said...

Basically God has a goal for everyone. I use the word goal because 1. it strays away from the thought that God controls every step of our lives and 2. because as humans we have the option to stray away from that goal and never return to it. God's goal (or plan) is way better than anything we would come up with but the way we get there is up to us. I more than agree with you when you talk about free will. We, as Christians, are allowed to screw up a million times along the way. But the beauty is that we can always find our way back to the goal if we choose and ask for forgiveness. Why would God state that in the Bible if he had planned and mapped out our entire lives? It's all about the end result and striving to get there. And if we stumble along the way, he will be there to pick us up. It's like parents and their kids.
I also don't think that there is just one "true love" for everyone. I agree with Clay. Love is a conscious choice that people make. Sometimes that choice is easy and sometimes it is difficult, but that, I think, has more to do with compatability and personalities meshing than being destined to be together. I think maybe God just puts people into our lives and hopes that we can serve him and be happy with at least one of those people.
Okay, I'm done.
Hi Nathan! haha.